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Re: 1950 : L'Armada de Farmington
Mar 12 Juin 2018, 14:51
Ou un guide avec des touristes...
Ou un prof avec ses élèves...
Ou ......
Non mais effectivement, ça pourrait ressembler à une démonstration de force. Mais bon, on ne peut être sûr de rien. Et en même temps, je serais un extraterrestre et je verrais que sur une planète, les gars s'obstinent à vouloir créer des bombes nucléaires et des fusées, c'est sûr que je m'inquièterais... Et ça, parce que les fusées visent d'abord et avant tout l'espace^^
Ou un prof avec ses élèves...
Ou ......
Non mais effectivement, ça pourrait ressembler à une démonstration de force. Mais bon, on ne peut être sûr de rien. Et en même temps, je serais un extraterrestre et je verrais que sur une planète, les gars s'obstinent à vouloir créer des bombes nucléaires et des fusées, c'est sûr que je m'inquièterais... Et ça, parce que les fusées visent d'abord et avant tout l'espace^^
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Re: 1950 : L'Armada de Farmington
Mar 12 Juin 2018, 19:11
Pascal aécrit
…Hocine, oui c'est une hypothèse
mais il nous manque bien des clés pour comprendre ces différences de taille et de couleur dans une formation ovni…
Il y a aussi une autre remarque, pourquoi des ovnis(observés) de différentes formes utilisent un même « couloir » dans le ciel, est ce que sont-ils d’une même civilisation ? Ou bien c’est une coalition, une même alliance entre différentes civilisations qui sont là sur terre ?
…Hocine, oui c'est une hypothèse
mais il nous manque bien des clés pour comprendre ces différences de taille et de couleur dans une formation ovni…
Il y a aussi une autre remarque, pourquoi des ovnis(observés) de différentes formes utilisent un même « couloir » dans le ciel, est ce que sont-ils d’une même civilisation ? Ou bien c’est une coalition, une même alliance entre différentes civilisations qui sont là sur terre ?
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Re: 1950 : L'Armada de Farmington
Mar 12 Juin 2018, 19:13
quelques liens
https://noriohayakawa.wordpress.com/2015/10/06/that-was-what-i-call-a-sighting-indeed-it-happened-on-march-15-16-and-17-in-farmington-new-mexico/
http://www.isaackoi.com/ufo/19500317-farmington-qarmadaq-incident.html
http://ovnis-usa.com/2010/03/22/60eme-anniversaire-une-flotte-d%E2%80%99ovnis-a-farmington-nouveau-mexique/
je n'ai pas encore creusé profond les sources, isaac koi en a documenté pas mal , mais il faudrait reproduire les textes de ces sources en fait
https://noriohayakawa.wordpress.com/2015/10/06/that-was-what-i-call-a-sighting-indeed-it-happened-on-march-15-16-and-17-in-farmington-new-mexico/
http://www.isaackoi.com/ufo/19500317-farmington-qarmadaq-incident.html
http://ovnis-usa.com/2010/03/22/60eme-anniversaire-une-flotte-d%E2%80%99ovnis-a-farmington-nouveau-mexique/
je n'ai pas encore creusé profond les sources, isaac koi en a documenté pas mal , mais il faudrait reproduire les textes de ces sources en fait
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Re: 1950 : L'Armada de Farmington
Mar 12 Juin 2018, 19:20
http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Martin-Gardner-Fads-and-Fallacies-in-the-Name-of-Science.pdf
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Similarly, all the details of Captain Mantell's unfortunate death suggest he was chasing a skyhook. Moreover, it is known that such a balloon was in the area on the day he made his fatal climb. Even the descriptions of several hundred small "saucers" which sailed over Farmington, New Mexico, on March 17, 1950, read like descriptions of balloons—though of course they could not have been skyhooks. They were white and round. They "fluttered." They seemed to "play tag" with each other in the sky. One of the few points on which all observers of flying saucers agree is that there is no noise. This excludes, of course, any known type of propulsion, but is precisely the way a balloon behaves. Observers have sometimes insisted that what they saw could not be a balloon because it was moving
against the wind."
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Similarly, all the details of Captain Mantell's unfortunate death suggest he was chasing a skyhook. Moreover, it is known that such a balloon was in the area on the day he made his fatal climb. Even the descriptions of several hundred small "saucers" which sailed over Farmington, New Mexico, on March 17, 1950, read like descriptions of balloons—though of course they could not have been skyhooks. They were white and round. They "fluttered." They seemed to "play tag" with each other in the sky. One of the few points on which all observers of flying saucers agree is that there is no noise. This excludes, of course, any known type of propulsion, but is precisely the way a balloon behaves. Observers have sometimes insisted that what they saw could not be a balloon because it was moving
against the wind."
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Re: 1950 : L'Armada de Farmington
Mar 12 Juin 2018, 19:34
http://www.nicap.org/rufo/rufo-06.htm
This story didn't run long because the next day a bigger one broke when the sky over the little town of Farmington, New Mexico, about 170 miles northwest of Albuquerque, was literally invaded by UFO's. Every major newspaper carried the story. The UFO's had apparently been congregating over the four comers area for two days because several people had reported seeing UFO's on March 15 and 16. But the seventeenth was the big day, every saucer this side of Polaris must have made a successful rendezvous over Farmington, because on that day most of the town's 3,600 citizens saw the mass fly-by. The first reports were made at 10:15 A.M.; then for an hour the air was full of flying saucers. Estimates of the number varied from a conservative 500 to "thousands." Most all the observers said the UFO's were saucer shaped, traveled at almost unbelievable speeds, and didn't seem to have any set
I've talked to several people who were in Farmington and saw this now famous UFO display of St. Patrick's Day, 1950. I've heard dozens of explanations - cotton blowing in the wind, bugs' wings reflecting sunlight, a hoax to put Farmington on the map, and real honest-to-goodness flying saucers. One explanation was never publicized, however, and if there is an explanation, it is the best. Under certain conditions of extreme cold, probably 50 to 60 degrees below zero, the plastic bag of a skyhook balloon will get very brittle, and will take on the characteristics of a huge light bulb. If a sudden gust of wind or some other disturbance hits the balloon, it will shatter into a thousand pieces. As these pieces of plastic float down and are carried along by the wind, they could look like thousands of flying saucers.
On St. Patrick's Day a skyhook balloon launched from Holloman AFB, adjacent to the White Sands Proving Ground, did burst near Farmington, and it was cold enough at 60,000 feet to make the balloon brittle. True, the people at Farmington never found any piece of plastic, but the small pieces of plastic are literally as light as feathers and could have floated far beyond the city.
The next day, on March 18, the Air Force, prodded by the press, shrugged and said, "There's nothing to it," but they had no explanation.
True magazine came through for a third time when their April issue, which was published during the latter part of March 1950, carried a roundup of UFO photos. They offered seven photos as proof that UFO's existed. It didn't take a photo interpretation expert to tell that all seven could well be of doubtful lineage, nevertheless the collection of photos added fuel to the already smoldering fire. The U.S. public was hearing a lot about flying saucers and all of it was on the pro side. For somebody who didn't believe in the things, the public thought that the Air Force was being mighty quiet.
The subject took on added interest on the night of March 26, when a famous news commentator said the UFO's were from Russia.
The next night Henry J. Taylor, in a broadcast from Dallas, Texas, said that the UFO's were Uncle Sam's own. He couldn't tell all he knew, but a flying saucer had been found on the beach near Galveston, Texas. It had USAF markings.
Two nights later a Los Angeles television station cut into a regular program with a special news flash; later in the evening the announcer
The public was now thoroughly confused.
By now the words "flying saucer" were being batted around by every newspaper reporter, radio and TV newscaster, comedian, and man on the street. Some of the comments weren't complimentary, but as Theorem I of the publicity racket goes, "It doesn't make any difference what's said as long as the name's spelled right."
Early in April the publication that is highly revered by so many, U.S. News and World Report, threw in their lot. The UFO's belonged to the Navy. Up popped the old non flying XF-5-U again.
Events drifted back to normal when Edward R. Murrow made UFO's the subject of one of his TV documentaries. He took his viewers around the U.S., talked to Kenneth Arnold, of original UFO fame, by phone and got the story of Captain Mantell's death from a reporter "who was there." Sandwiched in between accounts of actual UFO sightings were the pro and con opinions of top Washington brass, scientists, and the man on the street.
This story didn't run long because the next day a bigger one broke when the sky over the little town of Farmington, New Mexico, about 170 miles northwest of Albuquerque, was literally invaded by UFO's. Every major newspaper carried the story. The UFO's had apparently been congregating over the four comers area for two days because several people had reported seeing UFO's on March 15 and 16. But the seventeenth was the big day, every saucer this side of Polaris must have made a successful rendezvous over Farmington, because on that day most of the town's 3,600 citizens saw the mass fly-by. The first reports were made at 10:15 A.M.; then for an hour the air was full of flying saucers. Estimates of the number varied from a conservative 500 to "thousands." Most all the observers said the UFO's were saucer shaped, traveled at almost unbelievable speeds, and didn't seem to have any set
76. The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects
flight path. They would dart in and out and seemed to avoid collisions only by inches. There was no doubt that they weren't hallucinations because the mayor, the local newspaper staff, ex-pilots, the highway patrol, and every type of person who makes up a community of 3,600 saw them. I've talked to several people who were in Farmington and saw this now famous UFO display of St. Patrick's Day, 1950. I've heard dozens of explanations - cotton blowing in the wind, bugs' wings reflecting sunlight, a hoax to put Farmington on the map, and real honest-to-goodness flying saucers. One explanation was never publicized, however, and if there is an explanation, it is the best. Under certain conditions of extreme cold, probably 50 to 60 degrees below zero, the plastic bag of a skyhook balloon will get very brittle, and will take on the characteristics of a huge light bulb. If a sudden gust of wind or some other disturbance hits the balloon, it will shatter into a thousand pieces. As these pieces of plastic float down and are carried along by the wind, they could look like thousands of flying saucers.
On St. Patrick's Day a skyhook balloon launched from Holloman AFB, adjacent to the White Sands Proving Ground, did burst near Farmington, and it was cold enough at 60,000 feet to make the balloon brittle. True, the people at Farmington never found any piece of plastic, but the small pieces of plastic are literally as light as feathers and could have floated far beyond the city.
The next day, on March 18, the Air Force, prodded by the press, shrugged and said, "There's nothing to it," but they had no explanation.
True magazine came through for a third time when their April issue, which was published during the latter part of March 1950, carried a roundup of UFO photos. They offered seven photos as proof that UFO's existed. It didn't take a photo interpretation expert to tell that all seven could well be of doubtful lineage, nevertheless the collection of photos added fuel to the already smoldering fire. The U.S. public was hearing a lot about flying saucers and all of it was on the pro side. For somebody who didn't believe in the things, the public thought that the Air Force was being mighty quiet.
The subject took on added interest on the night of March 26, when a famous news commentator said the UFO's were from Russia.
The next night Henry J. Taylor, in a broadcast from Dallas, Texas, said that the UFO's were Uncle Sam's own. He couldn't tell all he knew, but a flying saucer had been found on the beach near Galveston, Texas. It had USAF markings.
Two nights later a Los Angeles television station cut into a regular program with a special news flash; later in the evening the announcer
The Presses Roll The Air Force Shrugs.77
said they would show the first photos of the real thing, our military's flying saucer. The photos turned out to be of the Navy XF-5-U, a World War II experimental aircraft that never flew. The public was now thoroughly confused.
By now the words "flying saucer" were being batted around by every newspaper reporter, radio and TV newscaster, comedian, and man on the street. Some of the comments weren't complimentary, but as Theorem I of the publicity racket goes, "It doesn't make any difference what's said as long as the name's spelled right."
Early in April the publication that is highly revered by so many, U.S. News and World Report, threw in their lot. The UFO's belonged to the Navy. Up popped the old non flying XF-5-U again.
Events drifted back to normal when Edward R. Murrow made UFO's the subject of one of his TV documentaries. He took his viewers around the U.S., talked to Kenneth Arnold, of original UFO fame, by phone and got the story of Captain Mantell's death from a reporter "who was there." Sandwiched in between accounts of actual UFO sightings were the pro and con opinions of top Washington brass, scientists, and the man on the street.
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Re: 1950 : L'Armada de Farmington
Mar 12 Juin 2018, 20:42
Une armada ou une vague d’ovnis, il me semble qu’il faut chercher un peu par là , si ce n’est pas une forme d’un signal adressé à des institutions officiels au sol , une attitude qui a ses raisons ou un sens transmis par ces « visiteurs » à ces institutions officiels .
On n’a pas dit que ces ovnis ont survolé des bâtiments officiels dans les années 50 ? Maison Blanche, le Capitole, le Pentagone, et même la vague belge dans les années 90, n’y a-t-il pas ce jour là , une réunion de responsables de l’alliance dans ce pays, qui elle n’est pas été « dite » , et qui peut être elle concernait cette affaire ovni ?
On n’a pas dit que ces ovnis ont survolé des bâtiments officiels dans les années 50 ? Maison Blanche, le Capitole, le Pentagone, et même la vague belge dans les années 90, n’y a-t-il pas ce jour là , une réunion de responsables de l’alliance dans ce pays, qui elle n’est pas été « dite » , et qui peut être elle concernait cette affaire ovni ?
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Re: 1950 : L'Armada de Farmington
Mer 13 Juin 2018, 05:25
merci à tous pour alimenter ce fil, surtout annakineo
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Re: 1950 : L'Armada de Farmington
Sam 21 Mar 2020, 09:16
On fête le 70ème anniversaire de ce cas...
Farmington reaches 70th anniversary of mass UFO sighting
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Farmington reaches 70th anniversary of mass UFO sighting
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